Has there been any recent news of missing or murders? And if you want to live in a crime free place, you might as well die now because the only place your going to find that is in heaven. And he is absolutely right about the rainbow people. I have walked the trails in the Ocala National Forest many times by myself as a female and never once felt any threat. Dirty, unshaven, and built. I've encountered bears, rattlesnakes, alligators, coyotes, and even found big-cat tracks that were significantly larger than any bobcat I've ever seen. It's beautiful with all the springs and everything God Bless all. I looked at some property in the middle of the forest and it would be heavenly..it is at the end of a dead end road and i've been concerned for my safety there I guess I would have to get a gun..something I don't necessarily believe in. It was also a rough place. Never encountered a problem. When they stopped 100 yards away from us, we turned off our headlamps, stood still and watched. Back now after all of these years. I have seen hunters "spotlighting" from their trucks on forest roads but none of these things mean violence towards humans is occurring. What you asked abovewould be the same as asking a pig to fly. One of those trying to help is the Help Agency, a faith-based nonprofit in the Ocala National Forest. Saving Mercy on West Silver Springs Boulevard, also a Continuum of Care partner, has provided rapid housing for homeless persons. I was surprised at all the folks here who go night hiking in the National forest. You are a coward, who just wants to commit very bad crimes? You should have reported him to the police that night. I have learned to stay far away from forest roads on Friday/Sat nights because that's when the drunken stuff happens. They would slow down where the Florida Trail crossed the road, and then roar off. I truly appreciate this blog and its comments f on all sides. ", Reason tries to help others he encounters who are unsheltered with at least an "encouraging word.. I would believe the population living there is at least 45,000 but the true homeless people living there is a very small % of that. May you rot in the Forest among all the corps you have killed, and may you too die in all the pain you have caused others! The National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty examined laws in America that punish. Also where did I state anywhere that I do not carry? One of the rules of carrying firearms is not to disclose publicly that you do. I'm glad I read this article and the following comments. Wow, I can't help but think of the texas chainsaw massacre movies when reading an these comments. Not that what has been said in this blog did not happen---and many a time I look around and wonder just how many bodies are buried out here, and will never be found. "The idea that violence happens, even if no one sees it, is pure speculation. He came out of the woods along the Hopkins Prairie outskirts trail and looked like the epitome of a criminal. Have you had any bad experiences there? Never to be seen again.It's a quiet, peaceful, and beautiful place to see. Lake Dorr Recreation Area 6. Unique features such as gin-clear freshwater springs, massive sinkholes and one of the longest explored . The beauty of the place is all being destroyed by people leaving trash everywhere. But harmless. Sometimes we could hear their voices. Years ago it was a fun family area to camp near and around the large lake and now people are terrified to even go near it. Stop saying things that are not true . Ive been to Hidden Pond a hundred times. He had crazy-looking eyes, wearing a hoodie, and dirty clothes. I think there is danger lurking among the shadows in lots of areas of the Forest although there are, of course, lots of places to enjoy. Turn yourself in. There are homeless people and criminals living out there in tents and homemade huts. There definitely are some ruffians in the group. Continuum of Care partners in Marion County HUD FL-514 include Arnette House, CareerSource Citrus Levy Marion, Creative Services, Inc., Early Learning Coalition, Interfaith Emergency Services, Ocala Housing Authority, Shepard's Lighthouse, Brothers Keeper, Estella Byrd Whitman Clinic, Open Arms Village, Veterans Helping Veterans, the City of Ocala and The Salvation Army. It was only because I had a gun that I got out with life and limb. These are the people that do not need guns. I get the chills just thinking about it. I have spent decades in the woods hiking alone, as a single female. Keep to yourself and youll be fine. Just because it has not happened.it certainly has for the people mentioned in these, and in stories all over the news. People should know that there are many hikers that go through the ONF. If I knew when I bought this place about all that goes on here would I choose to live here again? It will not taunt criminals or coax the owners into brazen displays of their firearms. It is more than obvious that wired stuff occurred there when you look at what lies next to it. People have disappeared never to be seen again. And gives way to your reconnecting to the murder you may commit. Yea, right! Do not leave valuables in site. Here 22% of people live below the poverty line, compared to 15.5% statewide, according to a report in December in the Daily Sun. Zillow has 217 homes for sale in Florida matching Ocala National Forest. On Saturday, March 24, my wife and I (we are in our 60s) set out for an overnight hike from Farles Prairie to Clearwater Lake. 'Thanks for the great blog! Sounds like a nice place to visit but don't wander around outside the touris-y areas. I am an old, white, tax paying, voting lady with a college degree, a job and a home. Better to stay on the main roads! The night immediately prior to the Boatman murders, I was in the Forest in the same area, Juniper Springs and hiking at night in an area where I had observed lots of bear activity. There are a large number of campsites, springs and lakes & sinkholes that are now lakes. Most my time spent there has been around the Juniper springs area and maybe that has something to do with it. There is a great deal of information out there. I pray you and your sick mind will burn in hell, and your soul will rot in eternity; never to reincarnate again on a peaceful planet! It tells about a few of the problems law enforcement has had in the Forest. The best camping, fishing, and swimming on the planet. See you seen. Photo: Ianare, CC BY-SA 3.0. Just since I moved here a couple years ago there have been several girls murdered and more than a couple people who have vanished or been brutalized out there. The police in my mega city are also very prone to shooting first ask questions later. Decent houses and then down the street there are rickety trailers. The National Forests in Florida manage three national forests: the Apalachicola, Osceola and Ocala. Just like in your so called perfect lives, my opinion is stay in your own pathetic world, were ever you be. We had to cross 5 more vehicle trails, and we were very nervous every time we had to cross one. The head of SOZO gives a presentation in TV every once in a while. But other than that My weekend was fun. Do not night hike or camp anywhere near Paisley on a Friday night. I believe that is what you want. Again not uncommon in any place one would live. Hunting by spotlight at night is illegal. It is a very beautiful place. (Yet, you're going to use two murders from 1966 as a reason to avoid the springs? A gun has no life of its own. Again, one of them was the white truck we first encountered. That area between Alexander Springs and Clearwater Lake had numerous areas close to residences and roads. I have spent a great deal of time and quiet nights in the ONF. Yogi the Bear. But I still do not carry a gun and I have felt safe! It is a pretty well populated area so most of the locals probably keep an eye out for suspicious activity. I have also seen evidence of tents in some local towns on public land and even not far off of Hiway 441 close to Tavares behind some businesses. He could of turned out to be crazy, or he might of thought we were. Robert Joseph Hamill Sr., 80, a member of the U.S. Coast Guard from 1958 to 1962, died on Dec. 12, 2021. Unless there are facts to back up these unknown murders or acts of violence then it is called, "shooting the breeze". Accept that as it is fact. People Living in The Ocala National Forest I am very familiar with the issue of homelessness in the Chicago area. One thing this blog did show you and you should pay attention to is, "never let your guard down-unfortunately, evil does exists." I agree with you. Recently hiked the Florida Trail with my dog from Clearwater Lake to Rodman dam. Alexander Springs Campground 3. I had never thought about it until that moment, but I was actually terrified to see a human being. They shoot the animals just to have something to shoot at and leave the carcass behind for the vultures. I am out there at least 30 nights a year. They are the only species of bear that will encircle and attack you if it thinks you are following it. I would volenteer etc. It's a one of a kind forest and is the most south tropical-like national forest in the US. It is a lovely place to live and visit. But I do believe that it has gotten way out of hand. I live in the forest near the Putnam County line. The area is safe and you would not have to take any precautions there than in any other safe area. Even the Chicago suburbs have a homeless problem (I have volunteered at a homeless shelter located in a Lutheran church in the northwest suburbs for many years). Reason, 66, said setbacks including his wife's stroke and admission to a nursing home were factors in him. It is the only park in Florida that actually runs in the black not the red. I was looking more towards the direction of Umatilla, Lake Yale, Lake Dorr ,Altoona cant remember other towns. Most cops in my opinion should be executed immediately before they can run and hide like nazis on the run. Unknown can you tell us why you feel that's it is not a safe place? If anything, the greater tragedy is all the trash left behind in the forest by careless humans.I must respond to the commenter who stated that, "wild animals are unpredictable". A bunch of drunken men trying to run down a woman on a horse, frankly scares the crap out of me. I was accosted a couple of times by doped-up transients while loading up my boat. They are out there killing people who have families (Mothers, fathers, siblings, children and ect. Carry a gun! It's full of addicts. I am trying to sell my property that backs up to the forest. Its a magical place. The Ocala National Forest is a land of squatters, fugitives, dopers, and neer-do-wells. were you searching for murders in the forest for a reason to spew your vile? I have been out in the forest since 1962. If you look back at the statistics of murders that occurred in the forest, say 20 years worth, that number is practically nothing compared to murders that have happened in Ocala over the same period. For those who cannot understand the nature of being self sufficient and living with nature, carrying a weapon for safety, being responsible for what you leave behind, leaving no footprint, not desecrating the land, etc., stay in your comfortable box and never venture out.The climate of distrust is incited by the media. It's a chance I take. I'm now in the 60's. It doesnt matter if murders happen elsewhere toothey are happening right in your own Forest. My heart goes out to you :'( Did she know anyone in Ocklawaha? In my 40 years of Living out here and growing up out here, I have had few issues definitely had to run off meth heads from dealing outside my property fence for many years. So you and I can type whatever our pretty little hearts desire! It was 10:30 at night. Your complete guide to The Villages Florida including real estate, relocation guides, golf courses, town squares and everything about life in The Villages Florida. By Kevin Mims Florida has three National Forests: Apalachicola, Ocala and Osceola. It's a great spot to meet up with friends and family for a weekend of . The number of incidents speak for themselves. From a place, 40 years ago, mostly inhabited by rural poor "country" types, who hunted and fished. Our site was in front of a family ned Crawford's from Jacksonville. In the last decade I have encountered naked men, rainbows blasted out of their minds, trucks full of drunks ready to chase a woman on a horse and others who did not look like the normal hikers, hunters, campers and nature lovers. I won't name the location, simply because we're 1) not finished there and 2) we really don't want anyone out there "rigging" the area to give us false results! So where should the police investigate these murders? It is a haul for groceries unless there has been a store opened that area. Florida's Ocala National Forest. Thank you for sharing your story. I understand the local drunken parties (though absolutely hate them), but what is with shooting guns at night? The Ocala National Forest is a land of squatters, fugitives, dopers, and ne'er-do-wells. Ive been hiking, biking, camping, and 4wheeling the Ocala National Forest for 30 years now. Bad things do happen here but I will never blame the forest. Its once-pure waters have been stained with the blood of innocents. It is a wonderful place, one of the last large areas of wilderness left north of the Everglades. She warned me of spiders ahead on the trail and then literally vanished. But again, you are entitled to your feelings, and I will stick with mine also. WebGL support is required to display maps on Recreation.gov. I would imagine that even in your Forest, some areas are more safer than others, and thats usually where people all get the notion that its all safe. The springs are a lot of fun for swimming and canoeing. After his murder they tried to dump his body in the Forest. . I wont do that anywhere. Citizen patrol is a joke. Location: Tamarind Grove/Monpazier, France. This is the home of A Florida man. Come during the week or have a larger group on the weekends. We had to stop and go back to the trees multiple times because now there were 6 trucks! Sister Concepta Najjemba of Blessed Trinity, who manages the soup kitchen, said recently about 150 people or more have been eating a daily meal at the outreach. . There are homeless people and criminals living out there in tents and homemade huts. miles There are good, hard-working people living in the forest, but there are also a lot of problemsbig problems. A beautiful magical place? David Thomas, 62, said his vehicle broke down and he hasn't been getting the side work he used to get. He also counted and interviewed people around IES Thursday. If ever it did. The point Im trying to make is that if you LOOK for evidence to support the claim that the forest is dangerous, you will be able to find it. Now we have almost 8 billion. While it is your prerogative and right to not carry a gun and pass your opinions onto others. They are up and gone when the sun comes up. The City of Ocala website, ocalafl.org, states the Ocala/Marion County Joint Office of Homeless Prevention oversaw the count. I took his photo as he passed to prove to my wife that he was real. I've never been to Florida but almost everyone I know has. Never have I felt threatened by humans or animals. The park also haslimited daytime hours. The funding has helped us set up a new ministry at Interfaith called our Homeless Services Team. An estimated 40,000 to 45,000 people live within the forest's borders about 40 . $75 avg/night. As it turned out, none of the information I had was relevant to the slayings. Many people I've gone to school with have retired there. In addition to human safety I am concerned for the protection of the wildlife I hope they have no hunting zones or something out there. Humans, on the other hand, present false facades quite frequently. Show me one place where you are 100% safeOne story you have not heard about here---is one where someone has gone totally bonkers and randomly killed mass people. While I was a little pissed cuz he could of helped us. The world is what you make of it. I will likely visit at some point but I could never move there. Bennett wrote in an email the PIT interviews should provide the community with more than numbers. I wouldn't. you think theyre going to do it in walmart lmao.very interesting to read, thanks for posting it. I immediately got in my car, locked the door and drove off. I've had 50 of them show up at Farless Prairie at dusk and pitch tents. My friend had his 20G and I had my 12G with plenty of slugs. With more than 600 natural lakes and ponds, its sand pine scrub ecosystem, camping and plenty of rooms for off-road vehicles, you ain't seen nothin' yet. You sound more like one of the killers trying to get people agitated. "Stop denying it. Considering the forest is 673 sq miles, I think a body count of 12 in 42 years is extremely low. Ive been going to rainbow gatherings since i was 16 40 now. My only point is that I choose not to go back there because of what I experienced. Yes, on Friday and Saturday nights there are many locals that go out in the forest and go 4 wheeling, or party at the lakes. Sure, it could happen, but it could happen anywhere. I have been going for 25 years . Not in this lifetime! The four wheelers tear up the foot paths and take away any peace and quiet you might be trying to get. They only search so long and then they throw in the towel. Great blog! I love the peacefulness and the wildlife but the forest is extremely creepy at night. Be aware and be cautious wherever you are. While I worked within the justice system, I was never an enforcement officer. Human nature hasn't changed. I would never suggest anyone go hiking camping Etc without some sort of protection and preferably in groups. Great post. If you are not-well, you are foolish!There are lots of people who live on the edge out here, bikers, the KKK. I grew up in it and spend days, nights, and weekends riding the logging trails on my horse and camping . I keep coming back to read more comments. I'll be there with my young grandchildren when I'm on vacation . I'm camping there soon. I am in Law enforcement. Some of the comments here are just plain ignorant. Ive had a more life threatening encounter driving down Parramore street near downtown Orlando in the broad daylight than hiking the forest at night. Where I live it gets very hot too. I just hope the people that would hurt them, don't have to learn the hard way, that not everyone is a sheep. You can bet they're all well prepared. Hog Valley was akin to Mexico. If you hang around fish you come up smelling like one. Ocala has adopted harsh policing policies and earned notoriety for the way it criminalizes homelessness. That man was 41-year-old Larry Dugger - or as friends and family called him, Frank Dugger. Enjoy this place and do not give these sickos an opportunity to commit a crime. The trick is to know your surroundings. I keep doing stupid, what are the odds that stupid will not eventually turn out badly? View listing photos, review sales history, and use our detailed real estate filters to find the perfect place. And be sure not to leave food in your area at night. But I must say when you post information from the Guardian that says you are more likely to be shot if you have a gun, along with the other anecdotal evidence that supposedly proves their point, you are doing a serious disservice to people that may be considering getting a firearm.I'm sure you can find plenty of people in your field that disagree with that notion. Reason, 66, said setbacks including his wife's stroke and admission to a nursing home were factors in him becoming homeless about five years ago. Listen to The Last Ride podcast, Episode 4: The Polygraphs, Marion OKs supportive housing units for Interfaith, $4 million in American Rescue Plan money, New Ocala VA Clinic is 'modern,' 'fresh' and 'comfortable,' Marion County veterans say, Ocala grandmother who died in crash kept the family together, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. I saw a man (mid-20s - early 30s) 2 nights ago at the 24 hour Mobil station on route 40 in Silver Springs. PREMIER SOTHEBYS INT'L REALTY. Fortunately for me, I haven't had any other unusual run ins, close calls, or encounters. A dangerous place? Get a map and plan your journeys. Its once-pure waters have been stained with the blood of innocents. One can still not be calm enough to assess the situation, and act correctly. While I am sure there are those who have better info than I do, I would offer the following. Blue You never know who is reading our comments, it can be a murder. I guess the very fact that the climate is tolerable to be outdoors if you have to year around draws people with no homes. But you have the right to your opinion! . The (survey information will) better inform our community of mental health needs, instances of domestic violence, and veterans in need of housing," he wrote. While they may harbor a lot of poverty, these shacks and trailers are not likely to be truly in the forest. No one is denying your feelings. One of the men had . All Ocala National Forest campgrounds allow pets, but they must be kept on a leash no longer than six feet and are not permitted in designated swimming and picnic areas. I drive thru the forest to pick up my son from work in Putnam and there is definitely a eerie feeling at night. Or serial killers. Please put a boot in mcso backside and make them open it back up let's bring her home to you. 4.8 (6 reviews) Free cancellation up to 14 days before check-in. Hey Dave, I'm sure that was not a fun experience at all. Location: South of 466a, if you don't like me.I live in Orlando. Altonna and Alexander Springs are a couple examples. stay? Wake up. Also just the fact that "some" members of society carry a firearm, everyone benefits when criminals know they may encounter someone trained and licensed to carry a firearm.I am sure there will be some that feel better knowing that when the visit the ONF. I hope so. I keep hearing (from many sources) how the National forests are becoming these places of severe poverty, drug use, and havens for serial killers, criminals, thieves, and drunken rowdy rednecks. This forest has nourished my soul. It's changed, but still peaceful. However, there are many meth heads and numerous Other Drug activities in the neighborhood where I reside. yes but Not alone in the woods. Clearwater Lake Campground, 24511 Co Rd 42, Paisley, FL 32767. I would never stay at a drive up campsite, no matter what day of the week. All you have to do is choose a family you wish to help, and then give. Yes it is like the wild west, and you have to think that way. Or domestic violence issues involving guns. It seems to be a place where people migrate to in the Eastern US.both good & bad, because of the weather. Unidentified bodies are regularly discovered in remote corners of the wilderness. Not judging the people that live in those. It happens. Maybe you need to read my comment several times so you can get it! Its a shame people are allowed to abuse it the way they do. he never even saw the man. Living homeless in the Ocala Forest, with Peter Updike Peter Updike's Wild Treasures 1.54K subscribers Subscribe 135 Share Save 10K views 4 years ago Homeless shelter in the forest, with. Most the people have a good heart.mean crazy people suck. Bad guys don't like to walk far. hes absolutely right, forests and parks are places bad things happen because the chance of them getting caught is slim because there isn't a lot of traffic. "We have housed nine individuals/families with Rapid Re-Housing funds this past year. take care and be safe near the forest! Its not the forest. This is MY opinion. But, I am not afraid to live out herebecause I am armed and dangerous in my own home, I have a right to defend it and my person.Evil is everywhere, there is no escaping it.Do not let this story stop you from coming to the Ocala National Forest. As Homeless Find Refuge in Forests, 'Anger Is Palpable' in Nearby Towns Charred trees outside Nederland, Colo., after a wildfire burned 600 acres in July. I and my family have never come across any of the evil that has been reported in this blog. I worked for a woman who owned a winter property there for many, many years. I have lived in the Ocala national forest for a good portion of my life. You asked that those committing murders leave the bodies around to be found. Big Bass Campground 9. As it has been stated in previous comments, the death toll in the forest is extremely low when compared to surrounding cities. "This lets me know somebody is concerned. Hop on the Ocala Adventure Trail to drive a 47-mile loop through the sand pine scrub. Even the Chicago suburbs have a homeless problem (I have volunteered at a homeless shelter located in a Lutheran church in the northwest suburbs for many years). For the record, they won't. It makes absolutely no sense. If everything was as logical as you purport here, we would not be having so many mass shootings in the news these days. Most people who live out here are happy to live out here. The two thirty-something men looked over to us and announced that if we heard gunfire, not to worry, they were going turkey hunting soon. 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